Home  |  Message Board  |  Contact Us  |  About Us  |  Fan Pics  |  Fan Polls  |  RSS Feed  |  Top of Thread  |  Login  |  Register
Display By:
Home  |  Message Board  |  Top of Thread  |  Login  |  Register
Display By:

 

Previous Thread   |  Top Of Board  |  Start New Thread  |   Next Thread
Adumass Posted on 16/06/2017 13:26
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message
 
See link

Link: Link
IP: Logged
Drew-Peacock Posted on 16/06/2017 13:37
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
I suppose their defense will be that it conformed to regulations.
IP: Logged
hackneyfox Posted on 16/06/2017 13:41
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Businesses will always use the cheapest option.
UK Building Regs should have been changed.
IP: Logged
Philpott_Fogg Posted on 16/06/2017 15:41
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Radio 4 were saying at lunchtime that they saved 4.5k on the whole refurb on this.

Thirty lives and counting for 4.5k.
IP: Logged
SohoFox Posted on 16/06/2017 16:09
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Its going to be well over 100 lives lost for a saving of 4500.
IP: Logged
northleicsblue Posted on 16/06/2017 17:20
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
why would you even produce flammable cladding for a building?
IP: Logged
LeicesterRino Posted on 16/06/2017 19:49
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
I was thinking the same thing!

Have they worked out how the fire got outside of the "fire proof box" yet?
IP: Logged
foxyDP Posted on 16/06/2017 19:55
The cladding
Edited On: 16/06/2017 19:56
Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Read somewhere there was possibly a ruptured gas main
IP: Logged
PossetFox Posted on 16/06/2017 21:08
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
4,500 extra for all of that cladding ?? I'm surprised the suppliers even offer it as an option and even more surprised that it was even considered.
IP: Logged
DagenhamFox Posted on 17/06/2017 05:08
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
It depends how long it had been raging for. If hours, eventually the concrete will warm up, the glass will warm up and eventually shatter and there you have it, flames out of the window to set the cladding alight.

IP: Logged
LGFOX Posted on 17/06/2017 08:07
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Someone was saying that the aluminium bit of cladding curves onwards to show it off better. Surely that would create a chimney effect encouraging the fire. That can't be right can it?
IP: Logged
Oadlad Posted on 17/06/2017 12:04
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
That point about regs sums it up.
If there are two models of cladding, both within regs, and one is totally fireproof and a cheaper one is 'pretty much' fireproof, business logic suggests that the cheaper option will get the vote.
Good job airlines don't offer this choice... they don't do they?
There is a story that one of the space shuttle pilots said, on launch, 'just think, guys everything we are sitting on was the cheaper option'...
IP: Logged
wints Posted on 17/06/2017 14:02
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Im sure that I heard on the radio, as so called expert, saying that the cladding isnt fixed directly to the outside of the building, but that there is a small void between the building and the cladding itself. This would create the 'draw' for the flames to climb to the higher levels.

Also in reply to Rino, the concept is that each room is a discrete box and each box is separated through compartmentisation. (This is usually why they argue that sprinklers are not required, as the fire cannot spread). My guess is that the flames escaped the box through a broken window. Normally there would be nothing outside for the flames to catch on fire, hence the next 'compartment' is still protected, but the cladding flammable negated this concept.
IP: Logged
Oadlad Posted on 17/06/2017 16:59
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
I wonder if the flats were air conditioned as the idea of opening a window to cool off seems a bit old fashioned.Even for widows which only open a few inches.
IP: Logged
LGFOX Posted on 18/06/2017 13:00
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
You're right wints. That's what I heard to on the radio. Seems bonkers as it's simple physics surely.
IP: Logged
Oadlad Posted on 18/06/2017 13:57
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
It would be bonkers if it was wholly true, but an horizontal fire block 'bar' is designed to counter that very eventuality.
That seems to have failed.
Philip Hammond is reported to have said on today's Marr show that the stuff used at Grenfell was banned in this country anyway, an admission which opens all sorts of cans...
IP: Logged
LeicesterRino Posted on 18/06/2017 14:21
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
Presumably someone from the planning department must have passed this off so that sounds unlikely. Also I think I heard that the place had passed a fire inspection recently and in my experience they're always very thorough
IP: Logged
astleyfox Posted on 18/06/2017 15:18
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
In building, an air gap is usually left between anything airtight and the substrate, to prevent condesation.
IP: Logged
astleyfox Posted on 18/06/2017 16:13
The cladding

Report Message | Email Message To A Friend | Reply To Message 

 
In building, an air gap is usually left between anything airtight and the substrate, to prevent condesation.
IP: Logged
Previous Thread  |  Start New Thread  |  Top Of Board  |  Top Of Thread  |  Next Thread



Home  |Message Board  |  Top of Board  |  Login  |  Register


Copyright © 2008 to 2017 Fansonline.net Ltd

FansOnline.net Ltd
Unit 7
Brentnall Center
Gilkes Street
Middlesbrough
Cleveland
TS1 5AP
Fansonline Home | About Fansonline | Contact Fansonline | Advertise On Fansonline | Privacy Policy | TOS
10.0.166.213