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malced Posted on 30/04/2020 17:05
Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
So the Office of National Statistics has released COVID-19 data which shows obesity is a huge risk factor.

I personally feel for anyone who succumbs to this horrible virus. But itís worth taking notice of the evidence as this virus might be around for years to come.

You can look up the data yourselves. Itís available on news sites. So Iím not gonna quote statistics.
Instead Iíll throw it out there that obese people need to be incredibly careful. Especially males.

Obesity means the lungs and the diaphragm are constrained and thus not at as efficient as they could be. This makes it harder to breath. The fat also affects other vital organs.

Obese people are more likely to suffer from the Ďcytokine stormí where the body releases too many proteins as it tries to fight off the virus. But this reaction actually causes more damage and leads to organ failure if unchecked.

As a guide, if you have a BMI of twenty five or more youíre overweight. If your BMI is thirty or more youíre obese. A BMI of forty or more puts you at high risk.
BMIís donít mean much to some folk, so an obvious indicator is your waist size. The bigger the bigger the risk.

I was watching the lady Director of Obesity UK being interviewed on Sky. She kept calling for help from the Government. It was frustrating to watch until the interviewer said surely the Government couldnít do much and instead it was down to individuals to lose weight. But she pushed back on this and for her it was about calling for government help rather than promoting personal responsibility. I donít get that. I really donít.

The UK population is the fattest in Europe. And our death rate from the virus is one of the highest. Thereís a clear causal link. We have seen a massively disproportionate number of obese victims needing critical care, many of whom have died.

Anyway, take this as you like. Iím just trying to spread the word. If you are overweight then maybe now is a great time to try and do something about it. If you can. What better incentive is there?

I appreciate some people canít lose weight due to other illnesses or disabilities. So if thatís the case maybe try and shield yourselves even if youíre not in the shielding category (the 1.5 million most vulnerable).
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scratchingshed Posted on 30/04/2020 17:40
Edited On: 30/04/2020 17:48
Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Iíam not doubting you or those statistics for one minute malced but all the pictures Iíve seen so far both on the news and in the papers of those that have sadly died from this terrible virus Iíve still yet to see a fat person.

I for one would be more worried about other underlying health issues like heart, lung, cancer, illnesses as opposed to being a few pounds overweight.
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goose Posted on 30/04/2020 20:17

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Shed I watched a programme a few weeks back and my wife commented about how overweight a number of people looked, not sure but I think it may of been in Italy.
You are correct in what you say also with regards to other health conditions, it does seem to be hitting a high number of them. Had a helpline call myself today checking if I needed anything, any help, shopping etc. Thought that was a nice touch, told them I have the wife for the 12 weeks 😳
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scratchingshed Posted on 30/04/2020 20:59
Edited On: 30/04/2020 21:26
Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Donít get me wrong goose Iíam not saying no overweight people have died in all this but from the pictures on the t v and photographs in the newspapers hardly any appear to be overweight thatís all Iíam saying most are dying with other underlying health issues as I mentioned above.
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Raging_Bull Posted on 30/04/2020 21:43

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
From the data I'm reading age is a big factor (over 90% of the fatalities are over 60) along with heart, lung and other medical issues like asthma etc, being overweight will also put you at greater risk.

The only good thing about the virus is that younger children are rarely affected thank f@ck.
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Tikataka Posted on 01/05/2020 07:58

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Maybe our Prime Minister should set an example here. Clearly not the fittest and needs to be more aware of the consequences of his excess weight not just on Covid but also cancer,diabetes and also mental health.
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TheGrimReaper Posted on 01/05/2020 12:40

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Whilst I don't disagree with malced I must say BMI is bullXXXXXX. Take a fit muscular athlete like Usain Bolt and do a BMI on him and he will come out as grotesquely obese. Even doctors admit this but persist with this lazy way of checking obesity levels.
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blackpool_pie Posted on 01/05/2020 14:08

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Grim Reaper. Based on weight and height Usain Bolts BMI is "normal". Agree that it is not a great way to measure healthy weight. Waistline and visceral fat percentage are a better indicator. Perhaps a body builder or WWE Wrestler would have been a better example?
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malced Posted on 01/05/2020 20:12

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Thanks for the replies.
I agree BMI isnít an exact science. But itís a pretty reliable indicator amongst other indicators.
We all know our won bodies better than anyone else. So if you know youíre big boned for example, and are very strong and fit, you wouldnít need to be so concerned about your BMI. Waist/belly size are other indicators. Visceral fat levels are too, but theyíre not readily measurable in the same way as we can look at our own waistlines and see whether theyíre disproportionate due to having gained weight.

I take the point each one of us may not have observed many obese patients on our TV screens. But thatís not truly representative or accurate. Itís more of a Ďgutí feeling. Excuse the pun. 😔

The ONS data is based on real patients in large numbers from across the country. It does indeed point to obesity as being a big risk factor and so that has to be taken on merit Iíd suggest.

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scratchingshed Posted on 01/05/2020 20:27
Edited On: 01/05/2020 21:06
Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Malced I know from past experience over the years your a bit of a health guru (nothing wrong with that by the way) and Iíam a few pounds over weight (no sarky comments Bada) but Iíam more than happy with my outlook on life.
As regards to the Coronavirus yes Iíam overweight but fortunately I donít have anymore underlying health issues although Iíam in my 60ís I donít smoke (never have) only drink occasionally and walk several miles a day with the Dog, a lot of younger fitter healthier guys have all fallen down before me so I must admit Iíam not too worried right now.
Enjoy life as it is if itís your turn then so be it Iíve enjoyed every minute of my life and even though Iíam only in my 60ís if I go tomorrow iíll go happy of what Iíve achieved in life. [^]
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malced Posted on 01/05/2020 23:21

Obesity is a huge risk factor for coronavirus deaths
Canít argue with that Scratchingshed. 👍👏
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